{"id":656,"date":"2022-09-13T09:52:58","date_gmt":"2022-09-13T19:52:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/?p=656"},"modified":"2023-01-06T22:42:02","modified_gmt":"2023-01-07T08:42:02","slug":"powerful-battery-electric-chainsaws","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/2022\/09\/powerful-battery-electric-chainsaws\/","title":{"rendered":"Powerful Battery-Electric Chainsaws"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>After a few weeks of research, I think I know what new chainsaw to buy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/ATF-82CS3420inCS-TO-12.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/ATF-82CS3420inCS-TO-12-1024x359.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-714\" width=\"652\" height=\"228\" srcset=\"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/ATF-82CS3420inCS-TO-12-1024x359.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/ATF-82CS3420inCS-TO-12-300x105.jpg 300w, http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/ATF-82CS3420inCS-TO-12-768x269.jpg 768w, http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/ATF-82CS3420inCS-TO-12.jpg 1411w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 652px) 100vw, 652px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><strong>The Greenworks Commercial 82CS34<\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>For context, battery chainsaws have not been considered &#8220;serious&#8221; in the past compared to gasoline models, but now (as of Summer 2022) there are abundant powerful options, for up to a 20&#8243; bar. For nearly 4 years, I&#8217;ve been happily using a 14&#8243; Makita XCU03 (LXTx2), and I&#8217;ve been delighted with the quality and reliability, but now I need something bigger and more powerful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s what I found about the power of chainsaws now available:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table is-style-regular\"><table class=\"has-white-background-color has-background\"><thead><tr><th> <\/th><th>Bar<\/th><th>Volts<\/th><th>Max Power (kW)<\/th><th>HP (kW*1.34)<\/th><th>Chain speed (m\/s)<\/th><th>Gas engine cc equiv<\/th><th>Battery Wh<\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td>Makita LXT x2 chainsaw<\/td><td>16&#8243;<\/td><td>36<\/td><td>0.9-1.0 ?<\/td><td>1.2-1.3 ?<\/td><td>20<\/td><td>32<\/td><td>2x5Ah=180<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Makita XGT chainsaw (*)<\/td><td>18&#8243;<\/td><td>40<\/td><td>1.6<\/td><td>2.15 ?<\/td><td>25.5<\/td><td>?<\/td><td>4Ah=144<br>5Ah=180<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Ego CS1804<\/td><td>18&#8243;<\/td><td>56<\/td><td>2.1 ?<\/td><td>2.8<\/td><td>20<\/td><td>45 or 42<\/td><td>5Ah=270<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Kobalt KCS 4080-06<\/td><td>18&#8243;<\/td><td>80<\/td><td>2.5<\/td><td>3.35<\/td><td>20<\/td><td>50<\/td><td>5Ah=360<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Greenworks GS181<\/td><td>18&#8243;<\/td><td>80<\/td><td>2.5<\/td><td>3.35<\/td><td>21<\/td><td>50<\/td><td>5Ah=360<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Stihl MSA 300 C-O with AP500s (*)<\/td><td>20&#8243;<\/td><td>36<\/td><td>3.0<\/td><td>4.0 ?<\/td><td>20-30 variable<\/td><td>?<\/td><td>9.4Ah=337<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>DeWalt DCCS677 with DCB615<\/td><td>20&#8243;<\/td><td>60<\/td><td>3.1<\/td><td>4.0<\/td><td>13.5 ?<\/td><td>&#8220;around 60&#8221;<\/td><td>5Ah=270<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Greenworks Commercial 82CS34<\/td><td>20&#8243;<\/td><td>82<\/td><td>3.4<\/td><td>4.5 ?<\/td><td>24<\/td><td>&#8220;more than 60&#8221;<\/td><td>4Ah=288?<br>5Ah=360?<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The two saws marked with a (*) are, as far as I can tell, not yet released in the USA.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My first impulse was to buy a more powerful Makita chainsaw, but it&#8217;s not sold in my country, and also, as you can see in the table, it&#8217;s surprisingly underpowered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The next saws (Ego, Kobalt, Greenworks) are just three examples of affordable 18&#8243; saws under 3 HP that are sold under dozens of brand names by many companies. They appear fine, but&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The last three saws are all new this year, and are the first three to reach 4 HP and directly support a 20&#8243; bar. Stihl is a major German chainsaw manufacturer, and their MSA 300 looks amazing, but, once again, it&#8217;s not sold in the USA yet, and will certainly be very expensive when it does (probably $900 for saw, $400 for battery)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That leaves a choice between the last two, the DeWalt and Greenworks Commercial. From online reviews, both are impressive. Both are affordable. The DeWalt saw seems to sell for around $390, the battery for another $390, but bundled together for only $550. The Greenworks Commercial is $600 for a similar bundle. The final points I considered, in favor of the DeWalt saw:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>DeWalt is a much bigger company with a much bigger user base.<\/li><li>DeWalt has a better reputation for support.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Some points against the DeWalt, in favor of the Greenworks saw:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Some claim that the DeWalt might overheat more easily than other saws, or that the bar retention mechanism is a little better on other saws.<\/li><li>Subjectively, to me the DeWalt looks clunky and blocky.<\/li><li>The DeWalt has a strange low chain speed, which some YouTube videos indicate produces a rougher cut surface when doing chainsaw milling.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After a few weeks of research, I think I know what new chainsaw to buy. For context, battery chainsaws have not been considered &#8220;serious&#8221; in the past compared to gasoline models, but now (as of Summer 2022) there are abundant powerful options, for up to a 20&#8243; bar. For nearly 4 years, I&#8217;ve been happily [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-656","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tools"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/656","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=656"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/656\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":716,"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/656\/revisions\/716"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=656"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=656"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/ahualoa.net\/farmblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=656"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}