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Power tools are slowly moving from gas to battery, and dozens of companies are jumping in. Some are big general companies that have making battery tools for a long time (Makita, DeWalt) and some have traditionally made one gas-burning thing (like Toro for lawnmowers, Husqvarna for chainsaws) and now reluctantly, belatedly going electric. As they expand their product lines into each other’s turf, they are all on a collision course. The bad thing for consumers is that there is exactly ZERO standards for the lithium battery packs, although they are practically identical, every single vendor makes theirs incompatible with a slightly different plug. Here is a table I made of companies, their battery lines, and the tools they sell on each:

		Makita		Milwaukee		Metabo		Flex	Bosch	DeWalt	Worx	Toro	Skil		Kobalt			Ryobi			Husq	Stihl	Echo	Ego	Greenworks
		18V	40V	12V	18V	18V	36V	24V	18V	20/60V	20V	60V	20V	40V	24V	40V	80V	18V	40V	80V	40V	36V	56V	56V	24V	40V	60V	80V	82V
drills/drivers		Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	–	Y	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–
circular saw		Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	–	Y	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–
recipro saw		Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	–	Y	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–
jigsaw		Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	–	Y	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–
router		Y	Y	?	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	–	–	Y	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–
angle grinder		Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	–	Y	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–
power cutter		Y	Y	–	Y	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	?	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y
pole saw		Y	Y	–	Y	Y	–	–	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
leaf blower		Y	Y	–	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
string trimmer		Y	Y	–	Y	Y	–	–	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
hedge trimmer		Y	Y	–	Y	Y	–	–	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y
lawnmower		Y	Y	–	–	Y	–	–	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y
riding mower		–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	Y	–	–	Y	Y	Y
wheelbarrow		Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	Y	Y	–
chainsaw low		Y	–	Y	Y	–	Y	–	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	–	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	–	–	–
chainsaw med		–	Y	–	–	–	Y	–	–	Y	?	–	–	–	–	Y	Y	–	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y	–	Y	Y	Y	Y
chainsaw high		–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	–	Y	–	–	–	–	Y	–	Y

There are other common battery tools (snowblowers, vacuum cleaners, paint sprayers…) which I didn’t include, mostly because I don’t need them. If there’s a tool you feel should be here, let me know and I’ll add it.

You can see how some companies’ focus is construction, others landscaping, and some try to do it all

There are good reasons for many of the gaps – a 24V battery wouldn’t make sense to power a riding mower, and a big 80V battery wouldn’t make sense for a hand-held drill. But, a lot of the gaps just represent where a company hasn’t managed to make one yet, or has decided not to compete there.

You can see that powered wheelbarrows are rare, only Makita and Greenworks make them, and it’s possible that the Greenworks ones are discontinued.

Also rare is being able to share your batteries between a riding mower and other tools, only Ego and Greenworks let you do that. Ryobi shares, but only with their lawnmower.

Chainsaws are divided by motor power (under 1.5 kW, 1.5-2.5 kW, and 3.0 kW and up). As you saw in my blog post of last year, high-power battery chainsaws remain rare, only made by DeWalt, Stihl and Greenworks. Stihl’s MSA300 is finally available in the USA as of 2023, but still hard to find. Greenworks added a powerful saw on their 60V line (the CS60L810) which is an amazing deal, if you’re already on that platform.

Overall, the Makita 18V and Dewalt 20/60V lines have the best coverage / largest number of tools for the low-to-mid power range, and Greenworks 60V has the best coverage in the mid-to-high power range.

I’ve spent a couple weeks researching, and this is what I’ve learned about milling your own wood with a chainsaw, and in particular a battery-powered chainsaw. Note that I have not actually done any milling yet, but after so much reading, searching, shopping and youtube-ing, I feel like I’ve learned enough to share and be useful.

First of all, some people will dismiss it completely, saying that chainsaw milling is too tedious, too slow, too limited. They point out a proper bandsaw mill is more efficient, faster, better, etc. No doubt they are right, but many of us already own a chainsaw and want to mill, and don’t have thousands of dollars for a “real” mill, or just aren’t going to mill often enough to justify buying one.

There are four kinds of chainsaw mill, from most serious/expensive to least serious/cheapest:

1. “Alaskan” horizontal milling rigs, which attach to your chainsaw bar in two places
2. “Alaskan small log” horizontal milling rig, which attaches in one place
3. “Edging” mill rigs, which cut vertically with the saw in a fixed orientation
4. Cheap vertical rigs which slide down a 2×4 with the saw able to rotate

Type 1: “Alaskan” Horizontal Mill

The quality models are made in the USA by Granberg, and cost around $300. There are many Chinese imitations on Amazon which can cost more like $100 and look like this:

By all accounts, this type of mill works well enough, as long as you have a powerful chainsaw, and are patient enough for the many steps, slow cutting, a lot of gas and chain sharpening, etc. Many people say you shouldn’t even attempt this with a battery chainsaw, because the saw isn’t powerful enough, but there is another major issue: bar length. I borrowed my neighbor’s 36″ Granberg rig, attached it to my battery saw with 18″ bar, and this is what it looked like:

As you can see, this rig is just too big for the 14-18″ bar typical of a battery chainsaw, and worse, the metal parts that clamp onto the bar are as wide as the bar, which pinches the chain. By attaching in two places on an 18″ bar, there is less than 11″ of bar left to mill with:

Type 2: The Granberg “Small Log” Mill (G777)

It costs around $170-$270 depending on shipping and where you buy it. Surprisingly, there don’t seem to be Chinese knock-off versions of it (yet?) It’s specifically made for saws with short bars up to 20″, which means this is the one to use with a battery chainsaw. By clamping to the bar in just one place, it’s a little less stable, but you get much more of your bar as usable cutting length.

Type 3: Vertical Granberg “Edging” Rig (G555B)

This Granberg unit costs around $125-$200, again depending on shipping and where it’s purchased. There are a few Chinese knockoffs on Amazon from $75-$100, but they have very poor reviews. To use this mill, you lock the saw at a fixed angle (nearly vertical) and push it thru the log, along a metal track:

As the name implies, Granberg suggests you use this to cut the edges off logs to make beams, not to cut slabs, altho with patience you totally could cut boards this way. Many online videos show real people successfully milling with this rig.

Type 4: The Cheap Vertical Rigs

Some say the original mill of this type was the “Haddon Lumbermaker”, others claim it was a Canadian “Quadra Beam Machine”. Regardless of origin, amazon.com is now full of dozens of nearly-identical models, all from China, and all with significant quality and usability issues. A typical unit looks like this:

This is super simple, the rig slides down a 2×4 or 2×6, the clamp holds your bar for vertical milling, while allowing it to rotate, as you pull it down the log. They are very affordable, typically $30 but can range from $22-$38. The Chinese brand names range from generic to comical (ZeroPone, Kweetle, HVUE, Wood-CNL, YEFA, TTF, TAUSOM, AGS, SurmountWay, Farmertec, Zchoutrade, TimberTuff). I was initially attracted to them based on simplicity and low cost, so I spent some hours trying to figure out if one was higher quality than the rest? Ultimately I had to conclude: no, they are all bad. Even if you get a unit without obvious manufacturing defects, you have issues:

• The metal guide inevitably has some “wiggle room” on the 2×4, so your bar will wobble and cuts won’t be straight.
• Getting your bar precisely perpendicular to the rig (to cut at a right angle, i.e. square) can be a real challenge.
• Clamping the guide to your bar is likely to be either too loose (saw vibration will shake it loose and destroy your chain) or too tight (which will either shred your bolt threads, or even snap the cast metal). The solution many people arrive at is using stronger bolts and drilling a hole through your chainsaw’s bar (!)

There are YouTube videos showing unfortunate people using these rigs to produce rough, uneven boards with considerable difficulty. There are some people that claim it works “just fine” for them. There is even one fellow who, through luck, skill and determination, manages to mill slabs of hard Hawaiian trees using one of these rigs and a small, low-power Ryobi 14″ battery chainsaw. So, it can work.

A note on chains

Most people recommend using a special “ripping” chain for cutting down the length of any log. There are even some amazing videos of hard-core chainsaw guys evaluating different kinds of chains for milling, for their effect on cutting time, smoothness of resulting cuts, and how frequently you have to sharpen. It’s a potentially deep subject, but “use a ripping chain” is probably good enough advice for most of us.

Beams vs. Slabs

Videos like this one (https://youtu.be/zw_hq_yJX-Y) show that cutting slabs with a vertical mill is possible but fussy, difficult, and error-prone – it involves a lot of fudging and shimming and tuning your rig to try to keep your log stable and your cut perpendicular. The vertical mills seem just fine, however, for just cutting off 4 sides to make a beam. So, for those of us who want nice slabs, not just beams, it’s an argument for spending the $200 for the type 2 (Granberg G777), not the types 3 or 4.

Conclusion

Based on everything I’ve learned, I wouldn’t get one of the cheapest rigs. The type 1 is too large, but either the type 2 or 3 (Granberg G777 or G555B) seem worth the investment – or both, because edging before slabbing is potentially better/easier than attempting to do all cuts vertically (or all horizontally, then needing to clean up each slab later with a track saw).

I bought a new lawnmower on 2022-05-13 – here’s a comparison to my previous mower.

	Toro model 20340 (“Toro Recycler® SmartStow (22”) 163cc Personal Pace® “)	Makita XML08 (“36V (18V X2) LXT® Brushless 21″ Self-Propelled Commercial”)
Typical cost:	$450	$700 (includes 4 5Ah batteries)

Caveats: I can really only compare these two mowers, so this is not a general review of electric mowers. This is just one data point with my own experience. Also, our farm is in the wet subtropics so grass is typically wetter and taller than typical lawns, and the whole farm is sloped (no flat ground). I always use the bagger to catch all grass, which feeds our compost system (and hence the gardens).

As gas mowers go, this Toro is reasonably quiet, reliable and affordable. It’s survived years of heavy use without any engine issues, and only minor repairs (like the starter cord). On our farm, it does struggle to fill the bagger. Unless I am (rarely) cutting a very small height of dry grass, it jams and requires me to stop the mower, lift the bag and manually clear the grass into the bag. The bag is not very large. This means I am re-starting the mower very frequently (no doubt contributing to the starter cord wearing out).

Buying the Makita was influenced by the dozen other great Makita products we own that use the same LXT batteries. After a week of use, here are some key differences I experienced:

1. Power. The Makita is actually a bit more powerful, and the batteries last well enough for my long mowing sessions.
2. Bag. The Makita’s grass bag is a little larger, and (possibly because it is angled closer to the ground) the grass goes into it more reliably, which saves significant work.
3. Noise and fumes: Electric is wonderful.
4. Handling: The Makita is a little larger, a little heavier, and has more traction and rolling resistance. That means it’s significantly more effort to maneuver it, and it’s harder to push through grass, level or uphill. It does roll fairly easily backwards, or downhill. Thankfully, it is self-propelled, but:
5. Self-propulsion. The Makita’s powerful drive has a speed knob, but the handle to engage it is either on or off, and pressing the bar requires waiting a second for the drive to engage. That also means when you ease off the handle, it abruptly halts. The Toro has what it calls “personal pace”, which is a variable speed that responds instantly to how hard you push the handle. This makes the Toro much easier to maneuver. Part of my struggle is surely due to the years I’ve spent with the Toro, my reflexes and habits have grown on it, so some of this will improve as I spent more time with the Makita. However, the lack of responsively variable drive on the Makita is undeniably more awkward. If another brand of electric mower has it, that would be a big deal.
6. Height adjustment. The Makita has a single easy level to raise and lower the entire mower, the Toro has one stiff difficult level per wheel.

To summarize: I give the Makita +1 for power, +1 for better bag, +2 for being electric, -2 for being harder to maneuver, and +1 for easy height adjustment. Overall, the pros outweigh the cons.